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Simply put, 'The Manosphere' isn't what you've been told it is.

Unlike what the media and social discourse tells you, the 'Manosphere' isn't some dark, manipulative corner of the web that's been manufactured to lure young men into some toxic misogynist group bent on women's destruction. 'The Manosphere' is a void that is being filled by men needing answers, nothing more. The 'Red Pill' communities and 'The Manosphere' are simply a natural evolution of the growing number of men who are searching for answers that society increasingly doesn't give. It's a group of men who have found discourse in a social group of like minded individuals that's increasingly under fire because it doesn't fit the current modern agenda.

It's as simple as that, don't try and overthink it.

'The Manosphere' helps to let men know they're not an outsider. That their concerns and experiences are valid and very real. It's a community that helps each other give guidance on how to navigate a society that increasingly revels in the destruction of masculinity and what values men uniquely hold. It's to let them know, they are not alone.

Frustrated by these drastic and quick societal shifts, many men turn to what's been labeled 'The Manosphere' for community and answers. Media and documentaries spotlight the most controversial figures, such as Andrew Tate, portraying them as representative of all members of this philosophy. In reality, there are two broad types of creators and viewers in this realm.

One is vilified while one is ignored and overlooked.

First there is the vocal, extreme that draws ire. The ones that grab headlines over their more controversial takes. They're the ones targeted by other adversarial content creators, the documentarians, and the news. They are good for clicks and views, they are the easiest to mock and attack. They are the go to when the media wants to critique men's spaces.

One should wonder - If people are so concerned for young men's futures, and who is giving them their guidance, then why is no one asking these questions? :

• Why are they listening to Andrew Tate and others that are similar?
• Why are young men seeking guidance from him online?
• Why are young men so desperate to have a voice that gives them positive affirmation and guidance, that they're listening to someone like him?

Yes, much of what he and others like him say is perceived as negative against women, but is it any different than what young men are told by the education systems, the media, leftist governments and other documentaries?

• Men are toxic
• Men hold women back
• Men are the reasons women can't get ahead or succeed
• Men have all the advantages
• Men are players, they're useless, they're not good for anything
• Men should still provide and protect, but women can do whatever their heart desires
• We don't need men anymore
  These headlines circulate mainstream news. Is it any wonder young men seek someone that will actually champion them? To fight the feminist fire with a fire of their own? If everyone is so damned concerned with who these young men are finding as good role models, why does society try and tear down the good role models men have had?

Does anyone remember the media and government's attacks on Professor Dr. Jordan Peterson for simply trying to educate men on how to be positive and masculine? Since his views didn't align with the feminist and LGBTQAI++HDTV agenda, they destroyed him both socially and legally. If his voice isn't qualified to help men, who's is?

Do they not see the media attacking and trying to discredit podcaster Joe Rogan because he likes MMA fighting and he interviews controversial people all while championing and holding masculine views? These aforementioned men, alone with dozens more are constantly vilified. Anyone the media perceives as not fully on board with the feminist and gay agenda is quickly targeted to be silenced and destroyed. This leaves the vacuum of space to be filled with the more controversial voices of 'The Manosphere'.

Secondly, there is the likely larger but less obvious group in this 'Manosphere'. These are the ones who's concerns are consistently unaddressed. The quieter, moderate majority that's simply seeking purpose, discipline, and constructive answers without the anger or controversy. They don't make outrageous statements, they don't tell other men to sleep with hundreds of women, they don't believe men should 'own' or dominate women. These are the silent majority of men who simply hold more traditional views, who trying to figure out how to succeed and find a new path in a very confusing and rapidly changing world. So why is this group so overlooked? It's simple - they don't cause controversy. They don't piss off the media, they're likely so far under the radar people don't even know they exist. They do exist, and in increasingly large numbers.
Recently larger audience conservatives like @benshapiro and others like him have critiqued the manosphere based on these recent documentaries, that highlighted the most obvious and easiest-to-attack targets. Both conservative and liberal sides often overlook the valid views of the moderate, thoughtful, and intelligent men by focusing on the most aggressive and loudest in the sphere, not the group as a whole.

Rather than to explore the issues further, these content creators and alternative media moguls align on the same side as Netflix, Hollywood and the Left, attacking and mocking those that tune into men's content. Rather than realizing it's the Hollywood propaganda machine meant to destroy this 'manosphere' movement, they jump on board with their hateful, uninformed rhetoric. It's ironic that conservatives view much from the left with criticism and distain until it focuses on something they don't understand, then these conservatives are more than happy to pile on with the left, hating on the men in this genre. Here's Ben's simple, uninformed take on the manosphere, using a couple of the extreme examples to paint a picture of 'The Manosphere' as a whole, leaving out the larger segment of moderate men. As per usual he piles millions of men together with a few men who are the most extreme in the space.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o99KEARBrg0?si=P7jLuLmcWU6ucw3a
What concerns me deeply, and should concern anyone worried about family stability, healthy masculinity, the collapse of the institution of marriage or even the declining birth rates is that dialogue never engages the quiet, less controversial men. These men, the millions of them, that absorb men's content are the ones closest to traditional values, not the loud outliers amplified for clicks and controversial views.
These men are here because men feel they are no longer allowed to have representation in the marketplace of ideas, and their concerns go unaddressed.

When men bring this attention on social media, they're shouted down as toxic or are painted as if they're just afraid the patriarchy is coming to an end. They're told they must pay for the sins of their fathers by amplifying and upholding women, and should shut up and 'learn something' rather than to participate in the discourse. These young men haven't done anything wrong, unless you consider fighting for a chance to succeed as evil, which many seem to do today.
For years now the media machine, and in some cases the government, has attacked men for pushing back against misandry labeled as feminism, the over-empowerment of women, and the blatant 'man hate' that has become so popular. Unlike what is often vomited forth by cooperate media, men are not upset for so called 'loss of power' or for their wanting 'to keep the patriarchy alive' as these recent documentaries would have you believe. Men are frustrated and increasingly becoming hostile because this modernism has come at the expense of men's success, peace, wellbeing and success in life. Most of what men value is being quietly destroyed.

Because of the very real attack on masculinity, men - especially younger men - are feeling lost by modernity. Once appreciated for their sacrifices to family, community, and country, and loved for their protection and providing, they now often face disrespect or marginalization. Traditional male roles shaped by God and Nature have been diminished, leaving many men struggling to find purpose in a world that can feel actively indifferent or even stacked against them. When young men rebel and push back against what they perceive as the propping up of the feminine by lowering the value of the masculine, their very real concerns go unheeded, or even worse mocked.
These trends are not hidden. Supporting data is readily available, yet men are still frequently told they are the root problem. When they try and address this, or search for communities like the manosphere that help them cope with the new world reality, they're mocked, chided and often told to simply shut up, that any mention of these issues are valid reasons to label these men as misogynists.
Young men are in serious trouble, even middle aged and older men are facing various issues that are being ignored. Until we pause the attacks, listen to their legitimate concerns, and center on these men for honest conversations, we risk losing another generation of our youth. By the time society fully recognizes the fallout, it may be too late. We need to start listening the quiet majority, not just the loudest voices, before we lose another generation to the madness.

Note: Spelling and grammar assisted by AI because I write with the ability of a dyslexic 4th grader.